HELP! New Raven Owner needs setup

[Leiczk]

Hi, all. 1-day old Raven and a 5-mos old player. Almost all posts and info on Raven setups assume T2 or T3 (? Didn't know they had 'em) skill sets and lots of ISK. I've neither. Need to know a GOOD T1 loadout for a missile-prone caldari. I'll probably go long range. Can anyone help?

Thanks, Eye OfTiger
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[Evil RedEye]

Simple setup that I use, works pretty well =)

High - 6xCruise Launchers
- 1xTractor Beam
- 1xGun of your choice (or another tractor beam)

Med - 1x Domination Large ShieldBooster (about 20-30mill off contracts nice and cheap)
- 3xShield Hardeners
- 1xShield Boost Amplifier

Lows - 5x Power Diagnostic Units

and i usually have a set of t2 med drones in the dronebay =)

The setup is fairly cheap and can hold off on a most lv4s if range is kept

[ironlord]

6 cruise launchers, 1 large NOS, one tracktor
Large shield extender, xl shield bosster, cap recharger assorted shield hardners
3 ballistic 2 pdus

[Pigasus]

I'll try to keep the ISK as low as possible

HIGH
6x Cruise missile Launchers (better XT-9000, otherwise “Limos”)
1x Heavy Nosferatu (E500 or “Knave” if you can)
1x Drone Link Augmentor I (for drones range, very useful in some missions) or
1x (gun of your choice) or
another Heavy Nos (if you are going to need more cap)

MEDIUM
1x XL-C5 Shield Booster (if you manage to buy a gist then everything will be simple)
1x Shield Boost Amplifier (T2 if you have the skill)
4x shield hardeners and resistance amplifiers (better T2, depend of the enemy)

LOW
1-2x Power Diagnostic System (T2 will be better)
1x Damage Control (if you want it)
2-3x Ballistic Control Systems (better T2)

RIGS (choose 3)
1x missile damage (+10%) but check the CPU first to be sure that you can fit it
1-2x cap recharge (+15-30%)
1x drone range rig (+15km)
1x shield recharge (+20%)
1x EM hardener (+30%) (very usefull in some missions)
(I choose 1x dmg, 1x cap and 1x shield recharge)

SKILLS
Standard is (Electronics 5, Engineering 5)
Raven means shield tank, low speed, missile dmg. So you need:
Energy Management 4
Shield Management 4 (5 if you want T2 shield ampl)
Energy Systems Operation 5
Shield Systems Operation 5
Energy Grid Upgrades 4 (for T2 PDU)
Weapon Upgrades 4 (for T2 BCU)
Tactical Shield Manipulation 4 (for T2 Shield Hardeners)
Shield Upgrades 4 (for T2 Resistance Amplifiers)
Energy Emission Systems 3 (for Vampires)
Scout Drone Operation 4 (for Link Augmentor)
All the necessary skills for the missiles to lvl 4
Caldari BS at least lvl 3 but better lvl 4.
Also must have:
Shield Compensation 4
All the compensation skill to 4 (em, kin, expl, therm)
And the necessary rig skills (if you use rigs)
Good to have:
Drone skills (go for T2 drones)
Long Range targeting 4-5 (very useful in many missions)
Signature Analysis 4-5

[Xlunax]

I agree completely with previous post, except for the rig choices. Rigs are stack nerfed along the lines of the corresponding module. This means that the missile damage rig (Warhead Calefaction Catalyst) is going to be stack nerfed right along with your the BCU's. Stack nerfed rigs only open up a mod slot, but the tradeoff is that rigs are expensive and irreversible. Best bet is something like 3x Capacitor Consoles which are not stack nerfed. This rig, in combination with something like a Gist B XL shield booster would allow you to (almost) run that SB indefinitely.

[Alvonx]

hi,

@Pigasus

you prefer herdeners for extenders? why?

thx for the nice info btw

[Xlunax]

[Alvonx]

thx for the info, was wandering what was best...

[Pigasus]

I’ll agree with Xlunax with both of his mails.

After 2 weeks of testing I think the best fitting for rigs in a Raven is :
3x Capacitor Consoles (+45% cap recharge) or
2x Capacitor Consoles and 1x Warhead Calefaction Catalyst (+30% cap recharge, +10% missile dmg)
I think I prefer the 2nd one because in a setup with cruise launchers (even T2) and the rig skill at 4 does not create any problem with any kind of fitting for me. (but my skills are max). So do the calculation and if you can fit what you want after the CPU penalty then use the 2nd choice. Otherwise the 1st choice is a must

Also for the extenders must say, those maybe are useful for PVP but not in PVE.
In mission you need to balance the amount of shield points with the % of resistance in order to have a good tank. Also the penalty for the signature radius (for the extenders) among with the low speed of Raven is a matter that needs to take care.
Try to go with a Raven full of T2 extenders in “The Right Hand Of Zazzmatazz” and watch your log viewer. You will see what we say

Oh... one last thing is that I don't buy rigs, I produse them
If you are going to buy them, then just wait a couple of months because the prises go down...

[Xlunax]

[Pigasus]

Sorry, my mistake I already correct it...

Thx Xlunax

[Xlunax]

[Pigasus]

I'm testing it... I'll tell you when I finish.

[stimpac]

Shield Extenders do have a positive impact on your tanking ability; it is not just prolonging your death like Armor Plates are. Your recharge rate for shields is fixed, regardless of the quantity of shields. This means that if you increase the amount of shields your recharge rate goes up too. For example;

if your recharge time is 60 seconds and you have 6000 shields your recharge rate is 100 per second. If you double your shields to 12000 your recharge rate doubles correspondingly to 200 per second. A more real life example is my Raven that has about 9000 shield on it and if I add one T2 Extender I add about 3000 shield. This means I have increased my shield recharge rate by 25%.

That all said I have moved away from extenders. And am loving this setup

1x Passive Shield Resistance
1x Active Shield Resistance
1x T2 LARGE shield booster
2x T2 Shield Boost amplifiers
1x Cap Booster or AB or MWD or Sensor Booster or Cap Module…..

[Xlunax]